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[RemcoSwenker]

Because at the moment it is only possible to have 2 metal bonus climates I'm proposing a new planet feature/climate.

Metallic Crust:

The crust of this planet contains a lot of metal.

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-5

Planet Composition

During the formation of the crust of this planet allot of metals were left behind instead of sinking to the core. Because of all the metals in the planets crust most of the other minerals there are polluted by metals. This is noticeable in the quality of the crystals that are found on this planet.

Thoughts, comments, or tar and featherings?

[Brend]

I take it you will want to change your system after this has been introduced? (Because I would advice you to have a look at Stuiter's tech proposal first ^_^)

[Chriz]

The Tech stuiter proposed only works to remove the negative effects. As far as I know this tech was proposed due to mutually exclusive prerequisites.

Since metal is not one of the restricted materials I think this climate is ok. It works for me.

[Brend]

As far as I know this tech was proposed due to mutually exclusive prerequisites.

Yeah well... This isn't a tech. This is a rules change.

Besides, RemcoSwenker doesn't mention that there are 3 climates that give metals: There's already 3 climates: you can pick from Barren, Hot Climate and Scarce Flora. (You just can't have Barren and Scarce Flora together) They just penalize and , and I think he doesn't like that -- so a new climate is proposed. So that's why I propose that he take a look at removing the penalties, instead of creating a 4th climate that gives + .

If we continue in this vein, we might just as well remove climates alltogether and allow everyone to just pick three different plusses and minusses. I would like to see some choices being made, instead of just picking enough stuff to get to +15.

[Chriz]

Sorry I was talking about the new climate indeed.
Anyway I understand your reasoning Brend but in that case we should have restrictions on the organics and gasses climates as well since they are capable of getting a +15 as well.
Basically the Cannot have Natural Life prerequisite on Barren is the issue.

[Brend]

Fair enough. I remember was intended to be one of the more common raw materials (more common than even). And, we have little -5 so this seems to be a good way to fix the balance.

I am now in favour of this climate.

[RemcoSwenker]

It is as Chriz said I would like to be able to have 3 climates that give metal bonus and what the penalised material is does not matter to me. My problem is just that I can't have all 3 on the same planet. and to me Stuiters proposal is something else.

a bit about my thought process.
I chose crystal because it seems like a good idea to penalise crystal for metal as allot of metals on your planet could pollute crystals. But maybe that's just me.

and thankyou for liking the idea.

[Mercury]

I have no problem with a +5 metal -5 crystals climate.

I'm not so sure about the fluff. Why wouldn't the metal sink to the planet core during planetary formation? That seems contrary to physics. Maybe the planet solidified really quickly though - that might limit the planet size to which it applies to however, might not be what you want.

Do you have any alternative idea's for the same stats? I'm atm drawing a blank, but will continue to think on it.

[RemcoSwenker]

not sure but i was thinking that is came there because something impacted it and have that thrust up the metal and then before the metal could sink there would be a crust.
as voor moons i was thinking that maybe the gravety/magneticfield of the body it was orbeting kept lots of metal in the crust.

that atleast how i thought of it.

[Mercury]

Meteorites are a good source of metallic iron and nickel, so I don't see why that couldn't be the case for other metals as well. We used a similar explanation for the retrograde spin special.

Meteors are not really a climate feature but arguably neither are solidified core or extreme crevasses.

How about this:

Late Heavy Bombardment

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Planet Composition

This world suffered from extended meteorite bombardments after it solidified, leaving meteoric metals to form a large portion of the surface. This means a lot of metals are found on the surface, but the trace particles are also a hindrance to crystal growth which develop less purely as a result.

Thoughts?

[Brend]

I approve; now we only need to know into what group of 'climates' this climate goes (for terraformation and such). I propose the existing group 'Planet Composition'.

I have a single point other, not directly related to this, but related enough to not start a new thread: we have a lot of non-climate climates. I don't have a problem with this, but maybe climate is a misnomer. (I think that officialy they're called climate features by the way.) Just saying that we might want to look into the boring work of renaming the thing 'Planetary Feature' or something...

[RemcoSwenker]

I think that is a good description for what happened to the planet. So I think it is good.

And I agree with brend maybe we need a better name than climate.

[Mercury]

Excellent. RemcoSwenker, would you add this to the list of climates on the wiki then?

[Brend]

When you add it to the wiki, please add 'Forum_forum: 923' as a field to the data entry. That will make this forum thread have the climate as a related page.

[RemcoSwenker]

I have placed the climate on the wiki Late Heavy Bombardment

now ame i also allowed to add this climate to my system where I would like to have it and am allowed to have it?(or is that better in a different topic?)

[Brend]

I would like to have a distinct 'Rules change:' topic for that. It keeps things nice and clean.