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Senator Mathi-ey C'b'rton of the Divine Fiefdom of Highmons » Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:05 pm
"Forgiveness is a noble blessing to give." the Senator acknowledged Senator Atheos' statement.
"I cannot see, however, how not having a family is a medical condition, much less one that makes it so there is no hope of a healthy future." she looked to the Tepogrenaian Senator for a moment.
"The Divine Fiefdom of Highmons holds that life begins when a soul is infused into a person by the Gods. Since a soul cannot be infused before the body exists, a child which has not been created - be it through abstinence, failure to conceive or missed opportunity - never held a soul and therefore is not denied the possibility of life."
"I cannot see, however, how not having a family is a medical condition, much less one that makes it so there is no hope of a healthy future." she looked to the Tepogrenaian Senator for a moment.
"The Divine Fiefdom of Highmons holds that life begins when a soul is infused into a person by the Gods. Since a soul cannot be infused before the body exists, a child which has not been created - be it through abstinence, failure to conceive or missed opportunity - never held a soul and therefore is not denied the possibility of life."
Nehket Aeka » Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:43 pm
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Nehket Aeka - PC
An veolian aide whispered something to the chancellor, as the aide moved aside the chancellors expression was visibly annoyed.
As she did not want to interrupt senator Mathi-ey C'b'rton, Aeka waited for a natural silence in the senate.
"I agree with senator Mathi-ey C'b'rton, for I too do not see how not having a family is a medical condition.", she adds her support to the Highmonian senator before addressing senator Harek.
"Senator Harek, you are right that the words 'artificial' and 'medical reason' can vary much, depending on the culture and the context they are used in. You state that it is for this reason that you would not like to restrain a species by a law. Might I suggest that we define these words more clearly? It stands to reason and logic that if we do so, your concern about the ambiguity of these words is removed, and with it your concern for restraining a species by law. After all, with clarity of meaning comes clarity of law.
I think that senator Mathi-ey C'b'rton has given a clear idea of when a life begins. I propose that we understand with 'medical reasons' to be the immediate well-being of the parent. Further, I propose that we take 'artificial' to mean beyond the natural ability of the species. This accomodates the great diversity of sentient species in our Union, while still giving is a crisp idea of what the law entails."
She was silent for a moment as she waited for the senate to take measure of the definitions she just gave.
"Now, for your alternative proposal, senator Harek, I would ask of you that when you explain what kinds of priority you envision, that you also elaborate on what you mean with 'nobility, religious order or others depending on the culture'."
As she did not want to interrupt senator Mathi-ey C'b'rton, Aeka waited for a natural silence in the senate.
"I agree with senator Mathi-ey C'b'rton, for I too do not see how not having a family is a medical condition.", she adds her support to the Highmonian senator before addressing senator Harek.
"Senator Harek, you are right that the words 'artificial' and 'medical reason' can vary much, depending on the culture and the context they are used in. You state that it is for this reason that you would not like to restrain a species by a law. Might I suggest that we define these words more clearly? It stands to reason and logic that if we do so, your concern about the ambiguity of these words is removed, and with it your concern for restraining a species by law. After all, with clarity of meaning comes clarity of law.
I think that senator Mathi-ey C'b'rton has given a clear idea of when a life begins. I propose that we understand with 'medical reasons' to be the immediate well-being of the parent. Further, I propose that we take 'artificial' to mean beyond the natural ability of the species. This accomodates the great diversity of sentient species in our Union, while still giving is a crisp idea of what the law entails."
She was silent for a moment as she waited for the senate to take measure of the definitions she just gave.
"Now, for your alternative proposal, senator Harek, I would ask of you that when you explain what kinds of priority you envision, that you also elaborate on what you mean with 'nobility, religious order or others depending on the culture'."
Senator Danar Tassar » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:43 am
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Senator Danar Tassar - PC
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"As I said, when a baby has no-one to take care of, the baby cannot live a healthy life. No decent food, no parental care, no doctor when he is sick. Thus when such a baby is not born, it will not suffer all kinds of medical conditions. The preventing of the baby therefore is done out of medical reasons.
But I realise that we are actually trying to loophole the proposal. We of the Consensus believe that the happiness of the living is more important than the potential existence of the unborn, therefore we are against forcefully letting more babies be born by law."
But I realise that we are actually trying to loophole the proposal. We of the Consensus believe that the happiness of the living is more important than the potential existence of the unborn, therefore we are against forcefully letting more babies be born by law."