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[Brend]

I have a quick question: Is there a 'basic jedi skill set' that is taught to all Jedi?

I know that in-depth education is personalized, but I'd like to know if things like first aid and basic pilotting are part of the standard curriculum. Seeing how one is to save lives, and the other for basic getting-around capabilities, it sounds reasonable that some of the skills that do not require formal training are taught to all, just like basic Force Jump and Push and Pull are...

I'm not saying that every Jedi ever should have had this trainig, as I'm sure that even the basic training will be personalized. It just seems logical to me that the Order tries to start everyone with at least those basic abilties.

Ideas?

[Mercury]

I am deliberately not answering on this one because my idea's might be interpreted as being authoritative, while I actually would like to see what others think on this topic.

[Elmer]

I think every jedi has a basic training in stuff like first aid and driving a car.

In terms of skill points, I think the difficulty of such a check simply will be much higher without the in-depth knowledge of knowing the skill.

So: with first aid, you can set bones and stuff, without, you can at least support the bone, but maybe not set it.

[Brend]

I would like some more ideas to be honest. To start this off though, I have some things that I would expect to be in the basic curriculum.

• Basic combat training
• Languages: at least Galactic Basic
• First Aid introduction
• Pilot en Pod Racer introduction
• the basics of lightsabers construction
• very basic survival training

[Stuiter]

I think it is good to have a basic, but like driving a car there is a minimal (legal) age needed. So I do not think a padawan unless they are older than 18 they have experience in driving a car. I do not see Initiative driving a car, they won't be able to touch the pedals.

A skill point in it would be to much. The force is already a big help.

[Elmer]

Stuiter, I think you mistake our common OOC earth laws with IC laws. Every world has their own laws, so some worlds will have laws about the minimal age of a driver, while other worlds totally ignore this. For example, on Skuldda there is no minimum age for driving. As long you cannot drive, you are not a grown-up. So there are a lot of little children there practising in racing. The same goes for almost all other laws and regulations: They differ from world to world.

Still, the point that you know how to drive is different from the point that you actually can drive a car: What I mean is that a Praetorian probably cannot drive a Daryan car, and vice versa simply because of physical limitations. When you are a 1 meter tall creature, you simply have to order a customized very small car. And when you are 6 meter, you have to order a customized very large car.

The basic curriculum Brend showed looks logical to me.

[Brend]

I also think that Jedi training supercedes local law. Especially since driving and flying can easily be practiced on a waste land, there is little reason for those capable of physically reaching the controls (and mentally stable enough) not to be learned how get around -- in most missions at least pilotting a shuttle seems a requirement.

[Mercury]

Having given others a chance, I thought about this some and posted my own idea's here: http://www.fwurg.net/dokuwiki/user:merc ... i_training

This is only my personal view, not an authoritive statement of fact.

In my proposal I have divided Jedi training up in six stages, following the model of human development. Your mileage and age ranges may vary based on your race.

Please note I am using these categories for clarity. Jedi training is an individual process so each Jedi gets a personalised program adapted to their race and capabilities. They are not ranks and a Jedi does not test and graduate to become a Jedi Infant after finishing his Jedi Baby training.

Additionally, keep in mind some Jedi may develop faster than others and some may have skills beyond their years in specific area's.

What do others think?

[Fedor]

I think that this is quite a lot of detail for such a personalised program, but looking at it I do think that these are useful details and that it is cool to have this list.

[Mercury]

I mostly followed normal development of children, and added in some basic Jedi skills I think most Jedi would have.

[Brend]

As some of you already know: I love details!

This is a very nice list. I propose that we keep it arround as an essay, or opinion piece. It isn't authoritive, but it provides a good overview for those wanting to know the 'normal' pace of education.

[Stuiter]

I think it is cool, but I think they do not learn all the additional skill that would make curriculum too big.

[Mercury]

The basics are merely what a slightly above average child learns in school. Since children can learn many things outside of school (from parents, friends, etc) and the Jedi program is pretty intense, I think this is doable.

Again though, individual Jedi may be more or less capable of learning things. For example, Salia is physically very skilled, but she is a slow learner and mentally behind a girl of equivalent age.

[Brend]

I also think that the Jedi training programme is much more intense than school as we are used to it. To me, the list seems well-rounded.

Sice the list contains logical abilities and development, I will be using it.