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[The Lifebringer Clans]

((OOC: The Praetorian Empire is both buying and selling MTCF, profiting from the new subsidy both times. Is this intentional on their part?))

[Praetorian Empire]

((OOC: Yes, i am both selling and buying, profiting from only the 52 MTCF i buy with the subsidy))

[The Lifebringer Clans]

((OOC: Okay. Expect IC rage to ensue after turn report is approved. (The Praetorian Empire is profiting by being able to advertise with selling at 480 tax, even though they do not have these goods to sell. They are in effect merely redirecting these MTCF from Darya, with both the Praetorians and the Veolians benefiting from the subsidy on this shipment.)))

[Praetorian Empire]

((OOC: The Praetorian Empire is advertising for the upcoming turns. This has nothing to do with this turn. They are only redirecting 5 because the Veolian Commonwealth requested to have the 11 to complete their fleet. They do not like to be left with a half completed trade fleet anymore.))

[Veolian Commonwealth]

((OOC: I think you should wait with IC rage until admin has posted the actual law text. In my draft it is NOT possible for someone to sell and have the buyer profit from the subsidy if the seller did not produce the traded themselves. If you still want to rage after carefully reading the law text, bring it on -- I'd really like more roleplay. Take the time to carefully weight your actual statements though; remember the last time we went at each other and the final method of resolving that.

@admin: sorry for mucking up this administrative thread with OOC clarifications.))

[The Lifebringer Clans]

((OOC: @admin sorry, but I have to clarify my clarification somewhat. I intended to just ask Chris if his actions were intended, and wait with the debate until next week, but eh... you know how these things go.

@brend. It's not in the final law text as was voted on. The Lifebringer Clans asked for provisions against 'cheating' to be included, but the Veolians assured them that this would not be necessary. They even seemed offended at the notion anyone would try to profit from this subsidy in such unintended ways. I hope you understand The Lifebringer Clans cannot let this go without mention. I will leave the precise analysis for the IC thread next week.))

[Veolian Commonwealth]

((OOC: @admin: a thousandfold apologies, but I have to point this out. (Maybe this set of posts can be split of into a 'Turn 18 OOC clarification thread'?)

@lifebringers: The line i'm referring to is: "1. The is bought from a Union Member who fabricated the themselves (this does NOT include the open market)". And rest assured that the Veolians will indeed be extremely offended at the mere mention of them participating in a scheme for personal gain with the subsidies -- let us do this IC next week though. *Looks forward to good roleplay*))